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Lunch on The Way
Kia Ora Koutou, and welcome to Lunch on The Way! We're three guys doing theology over lunch, and sometimes we'll do that with others. We talk about church, culture, theology, philosophy, and more, always wanting to be as practical as possible. This is a thinking podcast more than a teaching podcast. We want to warn you, that what's said here is not yet complete, because, like any good conversation, you never want it to end.
Lunch on The Way
The Tyranny of Metrics, How to Measure Spiritual Growth, We Focus on What We Measure
In this conversation, Graeme and Joey discuss how there are many things we cannot quantifiably measure in the church and that we need to use judgement when consulting numbers. Much of their think is derived from "The Tyranny of Metrics" by Jerry Muller.
00:00 Teaser
02:20 Introduction
4:00 Gen Z Christians are Growing | Bible Society UK
18:10 Political Will is Gone
20:00 The Tyranny of Metrics
24:50 Growth through Proximity to Christ
28:00 Tell Stories not Measure Stories
30:00 What we easily measure is what we focus on
33:10 Economic metaphors are dominate in our culture
35:35 An Atheist believes churches should have more government support
38:50 We are in control? NOPE!
40:35 The right place for metrics
45:08 We can fudge the numbers
49:15 Always be engaged with the margins
53:00 Death of an institution is not failure in a Christian paradigm
Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington.
The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.